- Catherine Morris
Our human desire for God, with the Augustine scholar James K.A. Smith
- an episode of podcast The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.
James Martin, S.J., is joined by James K.A. Smith on the “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Jamie is a leading scholar of St. Augustine, and a professor of philosophy at Calvin University. He’s written several books—including Desiring the Kingdom, You Are What You Love, On the Road with Saint Augustine, and his latest, Make Your Home in This Luminous Dark: Mysticism, Art, and the Path of Unknowing.
Together, they chart the contours of St. Augustine’s life, spirituality, and theological patrimony in the Church, along with Jamie’s own spiritual life.
Timecodes:
- 0:00 Adopting a refugee spirituality 1:40 Introducing James K.A. Smith and Augustinian spirituality
- 6:39 Jamie meets God through his wife’s family
- 11:00 How St. Augustine became a spiritual lifeline for Jamie
- 13:30 A thumbnail sketch of St. Augustine’s life
- 19:10 “Everybody’s got a hungry heart”
- 30:40 Praying with the German mystic Meister Eckhart
- 33:46 Tracking your desires in the spiritual life
- 36:10 The relationship between Pope Leo XIV, the Augustianians, and Augustine
- 45:15 Audience Question: How can we reconcile the "two churches" of today: a church that follows Jesus and a more "worldly church"?
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-spiritual-life-with-fr-james-martin-s-j/id1819566062?i=1000759962726 , on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6HQKQ2jPOQ , or wherever you get your podcasts!